Hi all, I am attaching the changed proposal for Mantis 606. I am not sure about the comment : Friendly amendment to change enclosure to solid. Can anyone please review this attached diagram and let me know ? - Thanks, Tapati >X-Authentication-Warning: server.eda.org: majordom set sender to owner-sv-cc@eda.org using -f >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:41:57 -0400 >From: Charles Dawson <chas@cadence.com> >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020920 Netscape/7.0 >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: SV-CC <sv-cc@eda.org> >Subject: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 05/10/2005 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Received: By mx-sanjose.cadence.com as j4AKfwgt018780 at Tue May 10 13:41:58 2005 >X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/875/Tue May 10 04:27:59 2005 on server.eda.org >X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/875/Tue May 10 04:27:59 2005 on server.eda.org >X-Virus-Status: Clean >X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:94.8683 M:99.4056 C:99.5902 ) > >Minutes of 05/10/2005 SV-CC Meeting. > >ATTENDEES >000000000000000000000000000000000 >555555555555555544444444444444444 >000000000000000011111111111110000 >555444444222111122222111100009999 >100221100200211021100211022102211 >064805185392692526581470360369250 >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson >xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle >xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Doug Warmke >xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx- Ralph Duncan >----xxxxxxxx-xxxx-x-xxxxxxxxx-x-- Sachchidananda Patel >xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx-- Michael Rohleder >xxxx-xxxxxx-xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x- Jim Garnett >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--x- Steven Dovich >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Jim Vellenga >xxxxxxxxx------------------------ Rohit Rana >xx--x-xx----xx--x-xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Bassam Tabbara >x----xxx---x--x-xx-xxx----------- Stu Sutherland >----x------xxxx---xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Andrzej Litwiniuk >x-xx--xx------------------------- Tapati Basu >------x-------------------------- Ashish Naik >----------------x-xx--xxxxx-xxx-- John Stickley >------------xxxxx---x-xxxx-x-xxxx Ghassan Khoory >-------------x--xxxx--xxxxxxxxxxx Joao Geada >------------------x-x-xxxxxx--x-- Rob Slater >--------------------------------x Swapnajit Mitra >--------------------------------x Karen Pieper >------------------------------x-- Angshuman Saha >--------------------------x------ Kevin Cameron >------------------------x-------- Amit Kohli >-----------------------x--------- Surrendra Dudani > >1. Reviewed Patent information. > > - Charles Dawson reviewed the patent information. > > >2. Reviewed minutes of the 05/06/2005 Meeting. > > - "- Item 686 32.34 & 32.36 Which operators for assertion "and" and "or" in VPI?" > " JimG." should be removed > - Steve/JimV. ACCEPTED as amended (Stu abstained - was not there) > > >3. Liaisons > > - Karen sent list of callbacks that we need to review. > > >4. New business > > - Item 536 > - Chas double checked to make sure that there was not issue with it. > - Committee thinks it's okay to mark as Resolved. > > - Item 732 > - Not a ballot comment: let's worry about it next time > - Chas to update Karen. > > >5. Reviewed of items with proposals. > > - Item 257 No vpi access defined for enhanced for loops > > Discussed. Made changes. Chas uploaded new file. > Steve/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 294 32.22 Waiting process as task or function handle > Move to make duplicate of 528. > JimV/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 345 VPI changes to support Encryption > Stu asked if there were any changes that needed to be in P1800. > Add a comment at the end for what needs to be added in P1800. > Michael would vote no on this without a minimum number of envelopes > being required. > Francoise/Michael. PASSED (unanimous) > Steve to inform the encryption committee about our changes. > > - Item 369 SystemVerilog VPI sections do not deal with generates > Friendly amendment to make vpiTypeDef vpiTypedef. > Francoise/Michael. PASSED (unanimous) as amended. Chas to update. > > - Item 418 PTF 562 Need to have a vpiTimeConst in the vpi_user.h file > Francoise/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 426 29.3.2.1 Return value of vpi_get_assertion_info() is backwards > Declare as duplicate of 425. Michael/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 445 Several Superseded sections missing information > > Is it possible to have a program be in an instance array? Ask Francoise. > > Michael moved to direct the editor to fix in 1364 those items noted here. > JimV seconds. PASSED (unanimous) > > 32.28 we should leave the note for now, but is questionable going forward. > Friendly amendment to change xref in 32.27 note 9 to be to 32.39. > Friendly amendment to change xref in 32.7 "P1364 19.7" > Michael/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) as amended. Chas to update. > > - Item 447 32.5 missing types for properties > JimV/JimG. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 449 32.11 vpiPortType is missing from the include file > Doug/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 454 32.11 incorrect format for the 2nd note > Steve/JimG. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 458 32.13 Question on the range relation > Tapati/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 463 32.16 should not perpetuate unused functionality > Steve moves that we respond with: > The proposed changes have merit but the scope is too large to establish > consensus during the balloting period. We are referring this > to be addressed in the next version of the standard. > Michael. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 472 32.22 Note 1 needs clarification > JimG/Tapati. move to make duplicate of 528. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 481 32.26 Note 1 needs clarification > Tapati/Michael. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 483 32.28 Should document backwards compatibility issue > Doug/Rohit move to declare as duplicate of 485. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 484 32.28 and 32.29 Should not define callbacks in notes > Tapati/JimV move to declare as not a bug. > Withdrawn. > Tapati/JimV move to respond with: > The proposed changes have merit but the scope is too large to establish > consensus during the balloting period. We are referring this > to be addressed in the next version of the standard. > PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 485 32.29 Clarify difference between a thread and a frame > Doug/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 445 Several Superseded sections missing information > Steve/Doug. Move to reconsider. PASSED > Friendly amendment to delete 32.28. > PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 526 VPI references to dynamic objects prevent garbage collection > Steve/Rohit. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 606 32.30 Problems with data model for clocking blocks > Friendly amendment to change "refobjs" to "ref obj" in 32.30. > Friendly amendment to change enclosure to solid. > Friendly amendment to make note 2 match the object names. > Friendly amendment to change note 2 from > The relation vpiExpr will return ... > to > vpiExpr shall return ... > > Change: > Here "enable" will be represented by a clocking iodecl and vpiExpr relation > will return a handle to "top.mem1.enable". > to > Here "enable" is represented by a clocking io decl and vpiExpr returns > a handle to "top.mem1.enable". > Stu (as Michael)/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) as amended. > Tapati to upload new proposal with friendly amendments. > > - Item 684 32.39 vpiMultiConcat should be vpiMultiConcatOp > Francoise/JimG. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 685 26.6.26 vpiMultiConcat should be vpiMultiConcatOp > Doug/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 686 32.34 & 32.36 Which operators for assertion "and" and "or" in VPI? > Stu/JimG. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 706 assignment pattern allowed as lvalues > Francoise moves to close as NOT A BUG. Tapati. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 717 assignment patterns can be lvalue according to 623 > Francoise moves that we declare this a duplicate of 706. Rohit. > PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 718 asymetric casex statement > Fracnoise/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 721 Add PLI support for structure and type initialization > Friendly amendment to add "see to the xref". > Friendly amendment to remove "or implicit" from note. > JimV uploaded a new proposal. > Francoise/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 726 Add vpiAssertion object type into sv_vpi_user.h > Stu suggests using 708 as #define. > JimV/Stu. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 719 Enhance VPI to support data types as "type(expression) or type(datatype)" > Francoise/Ralph. PASSED (unanimous) > > - Item 480 32.26 use of vpiRefObj here but not in 32.12 > Did we declare this one as NOT A BUG? > > - Item 729 > - Taken care of by 369. > > - Item 708 > - Chas to send Karen a note saying we are okay with this change. > > - Item 712 > - Chas to send Karen a note saying that we are okay with this change. > - Chas can comment on the use of the term "user". > > - Item 711 > - Chas to send Karen a note saying that we are okay with this change. > - Chas can comment on the use of the term "user". > > - Item 709 > - We have no callback in the preponed region. Stu moves that we tell > the champions/karen that we do not have a callback in this region and would > prefer that these sentences be struck. > Jimv seconds. PASSED (unanimous) > > > SV-CC committee recommends that an informative note be added that says > there currently does not exist a callback which occurs during the preponed > region. > > - Item 710 > - After lengthy discussion, Chas and Stu took an action to write a proposal > on cleaning up the text in 15.3. It will be sent out shortly. Must have > an email vote which completes by 10am tomorrow. If Chas receives enough > ballots by then to reach a majority, then he will pass this item on to > the Champions. > >Meeting ended at 4:06pm EDT. > > >6. Old Business > > SV-CC action items: > - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve > printing from Rational Rose. > - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties > shipping the UML for the diagrams. > - JimV to enter a new SV-CC item for adding tables for return values of > the properties. > - Stu to file new SV-CC item that will address bigger issue he pointed > out in Item 321. > - Francoise and Chas to investigate what to do for systemVerilog and generates > - Chas/Francoise to review/change proposal for Item 455. > - Chas to redo proposal for Item 463. > - Francoise to clarify definition of frames for Item 465. > - Chas to lookup definition of vpiFullName in 1364 for Item 610. > - Sachi to rework proposal for Item 482. > - Chas to review assignments and redo where necessary. > - Tapati to rework Item 606. > - Chas to update proposal for Item 425. > - Ralph to work with JimV to fix other issues found in Item 487. > - Francoise to rework Item 489. > - Francoise and Jim to rework Item 465. > - Tapati to provide HTML or PDF for Item 496. > - Chas to update Karen and Champions on decisions made by SV-CC for the > following Mantis Items: 732 729 712 708 711 709 > - Chas/Stu to send out proposal for Item 710. > - Steve to update Encryption committee on our change to 345. > - Chas to update proposal for 369. > - Chas to update proposal for 445. > - Tapati to update proposal for 606. > > PTF action items: > - Steve to compare BNF with the access available > for attributes to see if they match > - Stu to enter new PTF item for save/restart/reset issue. > - Francoise to lookup wording for PTF 524 in VHPI. > - Francoise will open a new PTF issue to look for situations like 25.6.15, > where multiple methods are used access the same object enclosure > - Chas to reword proposal for PTF 525. > - Francoise to file a PTF item that asks to specify the order that iteration > occur in, when the order is important. > - Steve to add ETF item for Annex C to remove the Informative label, but > still allow the contents to be optional. > - Chas to file an Item on the usage of the term "tags" at the beginning of > clause 27. > >7. Action items > > >8. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals): > >None! > > >-- >Charles Dawson >Senior Engineering Manager >NC-Verilog Team >Cadence Design Systems, Inc. >270 Billerica Road >Chelmsford, MA 01824 >(978) 262 - 6273 >chas@cadence.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapati Basu
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