Re: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting Minutes for 05/07/2008

Correction to process for reviewing Draft 5.  Items which need to go
back to the editor should have their status set to "Editor".  Please
see Stu Sutherland's email from 4/28 for further details.

   -Chas


Charlie Dawson wrote:
> Minutes of 05/07/2008 SV-CC Meeting.
> 
> ATTENDEES
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> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson
> xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Vellenga
> -xxx-xxxx-xxx-xxxx---xx--xxxxx-xxxx--xxxxxx-x Michael Rohleder
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx Chuck Berking
> xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx-xx--xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx Bassam Tabbara
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx-xx-xx-x-xxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle
> xxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxxx---xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx- Ghassan Khoory
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-----xxxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxx Abigail Moorhouse
> x-xxxxxxxxxx--------------------------------- John Shields
> xx-xx-x-xxx--x-xxxxx--xxxx------------------- Anil Arora
> -xx--x--------------------------------------- Erik Seligman
> =============================================
> --xx-xxxx-xxx-------------x-----xx----------- Steve Dovich
> ------x-xxx-xx-x------xxx-x--x--xxxx----xx-xx Amit Kohli
> -----------xx-x-xxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx-x-xxxx Ralph Duncan
> ---------x--xx--xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-x-xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk
> --------------x-xxxx--xxxx------------------- Pankaj Pal
> ----------------x-x----xx-------------------- Arjinder Vasir
> -----x-----------------------x--------------- Stu Sutherland
> ---------------------------x----------------- Gord Vreugdenhil
> ------------------x-------------------------- Neil Korpusik
> ---------------x----------------------------- John Havlicek
> 
> 
> 1.  Reviewed Patent information
> 
>   - Chas reviewed the patent information which can be
>     found at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt
> 
> 
> 2.  Approval of agenda
> 
>   - John/Chuck.  ACCEPTED
> 
> 
> 3.  Reviewed minutes for 04/09/2008
>   Chuck/Bassam.  ACCEPTED (John abstained)
> 
> 
> 4.  Liaisons
> 
>   - SV-SC meeting has been meeting every week.  They have made some 
> progress.
>     There will be a face to face 5/13-5/14.
>   - Neil asked us to look at some Mantis items from the Champions.
>   - Chas reported that the P1800 committee has given us permission to 
> work on
>     the Jeita issue, Mantis item 1835.
>   - No other meetings to report on.
> 
> 
> 5.  Consent Agenda
> 
> 
> 6.  Expedited Agenda Items
> 
> 
> 7.  New business
> 
>   - Review of Items with Champions feedback
>     - Item 2226
>       JimV asked if 37.34.1 should say "members of" in the second sentence
>       under cbValueChange.  John said that that would complicate things 
> a lot
>       and should be considered as a future task.  JimV agreed.
> 
>       JimV was also concerned about the language in the description of 
> cbEndOfObject.
>       JimV was concerned that we were not including members.  John said 
> that was not
>       the intent and was trying to not repeat the semantics.  John will 
> investigate
>       further.  Owes an answer to cbReclaimObj.
> 
>       36.2.2 should say cbValueChange in note 3, not all callbacks.  
> JimV questioned
>       whether note 3 should be in this section at all then.  John and 
> JimV agreed that
>       we should probably just remove the entire note 3.
> 
>     - Item 2143
>       We reviewed that JimV did the right thing and removed the extra 
> proposal.
> 
>     - Item 2094
>       JimV has not fixed this yet.  Will do so for the next meeting.
> 
>     - Item 2054
>       Chas to fix up proposal for next meeting, including Shalom's 
> feedback.
> 
>   - Review tasks for Draft 5
> 
>     JimV suggested that we add the framemaker files into Mantis.  This 
> would be good
>     because then we would have a record of it.  Please look at all Items 
> which are in
>     the completed state.  Move to Feedback if there is an issue with the 
> way the
>     editor implemented the proposal.  Otherwise move it to Closed.
> 
>   - Shalom's questions on Draft 5
>       Shalom asked "36.2: "Objects of type net have properties vpiName, 
> vpiVector, and
>       vpiSize". Why is vpiFullName not mentioned?"
>      Is a nit.  Abi will file a new Mantis item to address it in the 
> future.
> 
>   - Shalom's question on vpiAutomatics
>     Should have a comment on when we added this one.  JimV should look 
> into it.
> 
>   - Chuck asked if we need to change the control for Compatibility from 
> "2008" to "2009".
>     Chas will take an action to ask P1800 how we should deal with this.
> 
> 
> 8.  Reviewed items with proposals
> 
> 
> 9.  Reviewed SV-CC items with proposals (Straw poll only)
> 
> 
> 10.  Old Business
> 
>   - Chuck to add a Mantis Item for dealing with forced nets when you put
>     a value to them in VPI.
>     Done.
> 
> Motion to adjourn: JimV/Chuck.  Meeting ended at 1:00pm
> 
> 
> 11.  Action items
> 
>   - Chas to double check in draft 5 that Item 0417 was implemented properly
>   - Chas to enter Mantis Items for Krzysztof Konopko's questions
>   - JimV to file a Mantis Item to correct wording of note 4 and note 2
>     in section 36.62 (Draft 4)
>   - Chas to update Item 2054 based on Champions and Shalom's feedback
>   - John to update Item 2226 based on Champions and JimV's feedback
>   - Abi to file new Mantis Item for Shalom's issue in 36.2
>   - JimV to provide feedback to the editor on the vpiAutomatics addition 
> to vpi_user.h
>   - Chas to ask the P1800 committee to deal with the ballot moving to 2009.
> 
> 
> 12.  Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have 
> proposals)
> 
> 
> 13. Next meeting
> 
>    The next SV-CC meeting will be on 05/14/2008.
>    The next P1800 meeting will be on 05/29/2008.
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Charles Dawson
Senior Engineering Manager
NC-Verilog Team
Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
270 Billerica Road
Chelmsford, MA  01824
(978) 262 - 6273
chas@cadence.com


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