Re: TCC (CHAIRS OF SV COMMITTEES) VISION


Subject: Re: TCC (CHAIRS OF SV COMMITTEES) VISION
From: Kevin Cameron x3251 (Kevin.Cameron@nsc.com)
Date: Mon Sep 30 2002 - 10:15:34 PDT


I'm voting "no" on the Direct-C contribution because a large part of
it is (in my view) redundant. A lot of the functionality of C and C++
has already been added with SystemVerilog and the testbench donation
so I see no benfit in the "cmodule" stuff. If we were discussing Verilog
200?
then maybe I would vote for it.

I would be happy to see the external declaration of C routines in SV and
direct calling as a seperate proposal.

Regards,
Kev.

Vassilios.Gerousis@Infineon.Com wrote:

>Hello SV-CC members,
>
>We have communicated our vision to provide SystemVerilog the ability to
>connect to C through a fast API. PLI has served Verilog in the past years,
>but its implementation does not match today's modern languages
>(SystemVerilog) and also does not match design complexity.
>
>Direct-C offer the capability for Accellera to move in this direction and
>help make SystemVerilog a powerful standard for many years to come.
Direct-C
>provides a good alternative, and if a certain company believes that its
>capability require enhancement, then it is time for them to
participate and
>make it better. So far the only C interface that exist for Verilog and
>commercially viable is Direct-C. the TCC , as an SystemVerilog Chairs
>promotes donations that are based on strong commercial presence. Direct-C
>has proven its usefulness as strong commercial product in use and
providing
>answers to users and EDA vendors requirement.
>
> The momentum behind sv-CC is shown by the active participation of user
>companies (like Motorola and Sun). These users are asking for C-interface
>with SystemVerilog. Direct-C is the only answer that Accellera has
today as
>a working donation.. Voting no, means denying the users community, of what
>they really want and it is forced upon them.
>
>Best Regards
>
>Vassilios
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