Subject: Re: TCC (CHAIRS OF SV COMMITTEES) VISION
From: Michael Rohleder (michael.rohleder@motorola.com)
Date: Mon Sep 30 2002 - 11:50:13 PDT
Vassilios,
thanks a lot for providing your very valuable point of view. I very much appreciate the energy you spend on keeping SystemVerilog on track to meet its goals and deadlines.
On the other side I am not fully sure what you want to tell us, the SV CC DWG, with this email:
The vote on the donation is expected to judge the technical viability of the donation and how it can be applied to the goals we want to achieve. There is no linkage to schedules or other donations (since we only have one); the simple question is: "does it
fit our needs or not". If it does not, then we have to look for better alternatives or develop them on our own.
During the last conference call we had some good discussions about the DirectC donation; some very good questions have been asked and I think it became obvious that there is some room for improvement. Any improvement here can only result in an even better
interface, that can and will be accepted by multiple vendors, which is what we users want.
I am sure you as the TCC will maintain the strict neutrality this position requires, and help us to overcome any political issue that might arise in the team. The best way to isolate people that play political games is still to behave different.
I believe there is sufficient expertise and maturity in this working group to work as a team and provide a superior result. As such I think everybody in it fully understands that time-to-market is important, sometimes more than the quality of the
end-result. But I, as a member of this DWG, would be highly disappointed, if we sacrifice the quality of expected deliverables to a level that would result in an inferior result.
Best regards,
Michael
Vassilios.Gerousis@Infineon.Com wrote:
> Hello SV-CC members,
>
> We have communicated our vision to provide SystemVerilog the ability to
> connect to C through a fast API. PLI has served Verilog in the past years,
> but its implementation does not match today's modern languages
> (SystemVerilog) and also does not match design complexity.
>
> Direct-C offer the capability for Accellera to move in this direction and
> help make SystemVerilog a powerful standard for many years to come. Direct-C
> provides a good alternative, and if a certain company believes that its
> capability require enhancement, then it is time for them to participate and
> make it better. So far the only C interface that exist for Verilog and
> commercially viable is Direct-C. the TCC , as an SystemVerilog Chairs
> promotes donations that are based on strong commercial presence. Direct-C
> has proven its usefulness as strong commercial product in use and providing
> answers to users and EDA vendors requirement.
>
> The momentum behind sv-CC is shown by the active participation of user
> companies (like Motorola and Sun). These users are asking for C-interface
> with SystemVerilog. Direct-C is the only answer that Accellera has today as
> a working donation.. Voting no, means denying the users community, of what
> they really want and it is forced upon them.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Vassilios
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