RE: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 01/12/2005

Chas.,

I would like to suggest a couple of amendments to the minutes:

On issue 56, add that Chas. is to modify the bug-notes section of issue 56
in the Mantis data base with instructions on how the editing is to be done.

On issue 53:
a) Change "puts a dotted enclosure around..." to "leaves the original dotted
enclosure around...".

b) Change "This class shall be named "instance item", to "Change the name of
this dotted enclosure from "instance items" to "instance item".

c) Chas. is to modify the bug-notes section of issue 56 in the Mantis data
base with instructions on how the editing is to be done.

The reason for adding these friendly amendments in the bug-notes of each
errata is so that there is a record against which to verify that the changes
were made correctly in the LRM.

Stu
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Stuart Sutherland
stuart@sutherland-hdl.com
+1-503-692-0898
  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sv-cc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-cc@eda.org] On
> Behalf Of Charles Dawson
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:27 AM
> To: SV-CC
> Subject: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 01/12/2005
>
> Minutes of 01/12/2005 SV-CC Meeting.
>
> ATTENDEES
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> xxx--xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson
> xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Doug Warmke --xxxx--xxxxxxxxxxx Joao Geada
> xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx- Ralph Duncan
> xxx-x-xxxxxxxxx-x-- Sachchidananda Patel
> xxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx-- Michael Rohleder
> -xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x- Jim Garnett
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--x- Steven Dovich
> x-xx-xxx----------- Stu Sutherland
> xx--xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Jim Vellenga
> --x-xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Bassam Tabbara
> --x-xx--xxxxx-xxx-- John Stickley
> -xx---x-xxxx-x-xxxx Ghassan Khoory
> ----xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Andrzej Litwiniuk
> ----x-x-xxxxxx--x-- Rob Slater
> ------------------x Swapnajit Mitra
> ------------------x Karen Pieper
> ----------------x-- Angshuman Saha
> ------------x------ Kevin Cameron
> ----------x-------- Amit Kohli
> ---------x--------- Surrendra Dudani
>
> 1. Reviewed Patent information.
>
> - Charles Dawson read the patent information.
>
>
> 2. Reviewed minutes of the 01/05/2005 Meeting.
> - Ghassan reported that he was at the meeting. Chas has
> updated the attendance to reflect this.
> - Ralph/Stu. Accepted.
>
> 3. Liaisons
>
> - No other meetings to report on.
>
> 4. New business
>
> - Item 56
> This describes things that are not in 1364, but there is
> no place in the
> P1800. Chas suggested we add a section 31 titled
> "Extensions to VPI
> routines". Stu/Steve move to reconsider. ACCEPTED.
>
> Steve moves that we resolve item 56 with the existing
> proposal and add
> a bugnote directing the editor to place the new text as
> notes in P1800
> section 31.2. The deletion should be applied as
> specified in P1364
> section 27.10. Stu seconds. PASSED (unanimous).
>
> - Item 53
> Steve/Stu motion to reconsider. ACCEPTED.
>
> Stu moves that we make friendly amendment that puts a
> dotted enclosure
> around the set of objects on the left hand side of the
> diagram on page 3
> of the proposal. This class shall be named "instance
> item". The package
> reference on page 3 should be a made definition.
> Ralph seconds. PASSED (unanimous).
>
> - Item 40
> This has some minor issues that the editor noted. Chas
> added bugnotes
> to address them. No one objected to the handling of
> this via bugnotes.
>
> - Latest header files
> Stu asked if anyone had an sv_vpi_user.h file that had
> incorporated all of
> the errata changes. Nobody did. Stu will make the edits
> there by hand and
> we will test after the fact.
>
> - Item 330
> Doug/Michael motion to reconsider. ACCEPTED.
> Doug/Michael move to close Item 330 as a duplicate of Item 050.
> PASSED (unanimous).
>
> - Item 292
> JimV/Steve move to reconsider. ACCEPTED.
> Steve/JimV move to close as not a bug. Previously dealt
> with in 1364 PTF.
> PASSED (unanimous)
>
> - Determining the urgency of new items.
> Lengthy discussion on how to resolve issues that are not
> going to make the
> first ballot draft. The process is as follows:
> - We continue to work on new issues as the come in.
> - If someone feels the new issue(s) are important enough
> that they should
> be resolved in this version of the specification, they
> should make note
> of the issue when balloting.
> - The P1800 committee is obligated to respond to all of
> the comments that
> are submitted as part of the balloting process. Their
> response may be
> that the committee has decided not to address the
> issue(s) in this version,
> or they may do a re-circulation with the issue(s) addressed.
>
> - Reviewing database
> Chas noted that we will again have a tight schedule when
> the draft comes
> out later this week. Please try to review the passed
> items to make sure
> they were correctly incorporated.
> Chas to send out instructions and schedule.
>
>
> 5. Reviewed of items with proposals.
>
> - Item 349
> Doug/JimV. PASSED (unanimous)
>
> - Item 350
> Proposal is in SV-350-2.htm.
> Doug/Ralph. PASSED (unanimous)
>
>
> 6. Old Business
>
>
> Meeting ended at 1:05PM EST.
>
> 7. Action items
>
> SV-CC action items:
> - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve
> printing from Rational Rose.
> - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties
> shipping the UML for the diagrams.
> - Sachi to drive finding a better solution for 052.
>
> Sachi has added a new proposal.
>
> - JimV to enter a new SV-CC item for adding tables for
> return values of
> the properties.
> - Stu to file new SV-CC item that will address bigger
> issue he pointed
> out in Item 321.
> - Doug to add an SV-CC item for removing the prototype
> cleanup from the
> DPI include file.
>
> DONE
>
> - Doug to add an SV-CC item for adding "const" to prototypes in the
> DPI include file where appropriate.
>
> DONE
>
> - Chas to send out instructions and schedule for reviewing
> passed Items
> that have been incorporated into the latest draft.
>
> PTF action items:
> - Steve to compare BNF with the access available
> for attributes to see if they match
> - Stu to enter new PTF item for save/restart/reset issue.
> - Francoise to lookup wording for PTF 524 in VHPI.
> - Francoise will open a new PTF issue to look for
> situations like 25.6.15,
> where multiple methods are used access the same object enclosure
> - Chas to reword proposal for PTF 525.
> - Draft a straw man proposal using a clean slate with no
> concern for
> existing PLI/VPI on the best way to represent all Verilog and
> SystemVerilog kinds and types. This straw man will then
> be used as a
> basis for discussing backward compatibility with the
> existing reg, net,
> variables, functions, and parameter diagrams. It may be
> decided that
> full backward compatibility is not possible, or is not
> the best approach
> moving forward.
> - Sachi will file a PTF item for the clarification of what
> can be done
> at ROsync time and putting values in future times.
> - Francoise to file a PTF item that asks to specify the
> order that iteration
> occur in, when the order is important.
> - Steve to add ETF item for Annex C to remove the
> Informative label, but
> still allow the contents to be optional.
> - Chas to update PTF database for the SV-CC Items to
> Shalom's satisfaction.
>
> 8. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already
> have proposals):
>
> - Item 052 vpiFuncType return values for systemVerilog datatypes
>
> --
> Charles Dawson
> Senior Engineering Manager
> NC-Verilog Team
> Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
> 270 Billerica Road
> Chelmsford, MA 01824
> (978) 262 - 6273
> chas@cadence.com
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Received on Fri Jan 14 14:40:27 2005