Re: [sv-cc] RE: [sv-champions] Email vote - ending August 13th

Hi All,

I have been out of the office since last Wednesday.  Tomorrow, when I 
return, I will absorb the Champions feedback and try to address the 
issues. Some of the strikeouts were in the version I got from Stu, and I 
would not have re-colorized any of that.  I can re-verify starting from 
that base version.
We reviewed this a number of times, with the structural model and 
colorization for the edits.  We saw what we expected to see, so it 
should be reasonable to clarify for you. I am only in the office Tu and 
We this week, so I will be prompt.

Thanks for your patience,
John

Jim Vellenga wrote:
> Shalom, I agree that the changes are confusing.
>
> John, who put this proposal together, hasn't responded yet,
> so let me say what I remember.  In order to simplify the
> changes for Stu, John Shields asked him for a copy of
> work in progress, and annotated that.  When this first
> happened, the copy that he obtained was between draft
> 5 and draft 6.  You'll see from the note at the top
> of the proposal for clause 36 that Stu's existing changes
> are supposed to be in green, although I haven't confirmed
> that all those changes are in draft 6.
>
> You have observed, correctly I believe, that the strikeouts
> are occurring in the "REPLACE" section rather than in the
> "WITH" section, and that this is unusual.  In John's defense,
> I will note that when we do strikeouts from the diagrams,
> we really haven't had any other choice; John seems to
> have extended this practice to the text parts as well.
>
> However, I have paged through the proposal for 36 just
> now myself and it looks pretty clear that all the
> strikeouts marked in red are as the SV-CC intended as
> part of the approved proposal.  John seems to have
> done that consistently.
>
> Would it be helpful to invite John to comment on specific
> instances?
>
> Regards,
> Jim Vellenga
>
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> ]-----Original Message-----
> ]From: owner-sv-cc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-cc@eda.org] On 
> ]Behalf Of Bresticker, Shalom
> ]Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:34 AM
> ]To: Bresticker, Shalom; Neil.Korpusik@sun.com; sv-champions@eda.org
> ]Cc: SV-CC
> ]Subject: [sv-cc] RE: [sv-champions] Email vote - ending August 13th
> ]
> ]Similarly, the diagram for 36.17 Variable select (should be 
> ]36.18) shows
> ]"vpiValid" being deleted (red strikeout) in the FROM part, 
> ]while it does
> ]exist in Draft 6.
> ]
> ]It looks like many of the deletions are being shown in the FROM parts,
> ]while additions are being shown in the TO parts.
> ]
> ]Also, as noted above, some of the section numbers are 
> ]different in Draft
> ]6.
> ]
> ]Regards,
> ]Shalom
> ]
> ]> -----Original Message-----
> ]> From: owner-sv-champions@server.eda.org 
> ]> [mailto:owner-sv-champions@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of 
> ]> Bresticker, Shalom
> ]> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 1:38 PM
> ]> To: Neil.Korpusik@Sun.COM; sv-champions@server.eda.org
> ]> Cc: SV-CC
> ]> Subject: RE: [sv-champions] Email vote - ending August 13th
> ]> 
> ]> Something is not clear about Mantis 2226. 
> ]> 
> ]> A part of the proposal changes the details of Section 36.16, 
> ]> the VPI diagram for 36.16.
> ]> A page numbered 798 has "REPLACE diagram on next page:", 
> ]> followed by pages 799-802, "WITH diagram on next page:" on 
> ]> page 803, followed by pages 804-807.
> ]> 
> ]> What is not clear to me is that p. 801, in the "FROM" 
> ]> section, shows details 23 and 26-28 with red-strikeouts, 
> ]> whereas in Draft 6, the details exist and have not been deleted.
> ]> 
> ]> I don't know whether someone thought they were supposed to be 
> ]> struck out in Draft 6, or there is another proposal for Draft 
> ]> 7 that strikes them out, or whether this proposal is striking 
> ]> them out.
> ]> 
> ]> Regards,
> ]> Shalom
> ]> 
> ]> > -----Original Message-----
> ]> > From: owner-sv-champions@server.eda.org 
> ]> > [mailto:owner-sv-champions@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of 
> ]> Neil Korpusik
> ]> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:53 AM
> ]> > To: sv-champions@server.eda.org
> ]> > Cc: sv-sc@server.eda.org
> ]> > Subject: [sv-champions] Email vote - ending August 13th
> ]> > 
> ]> > SystemVerilog Champions,
> ]> > 
> ]> > This is a call for an abbreviated email vote. As we agreed 
> ]> to in the 
> ]> > conference call this morning, this email vote will run for 6 days, 
> ]> > ending on Wednesday, August 13th (7pm PST).
> ]> > 
> ]> > 
> ]> > List of Mantis items for a Champion's email vote:
> ]> > -------------------------------------------------
> ]> > 1. 2226  Approve the proposal                  Yes ___ No ___ 
> ]> > Abstain ___
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